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Roy was very apprehensive toward this trip to New York, but Walt had nothing but a positive feeling about this meeting and was certain he was going to get the studio a higher wage per cartoon. However when Walt arrived in New York and met with Charles Mintz, it was another story.
It has been said that Walt laid out the perfect pitch for how successful their studio's creation was and how they should be granted a raise per picture. Mintz counter offered with a lower rate. Walt responded that he can barely pay his staff and keep lights on as it is, and that a drop in pay will ruin his studio. Mintz then informed Walt that it was Universal that owned the rights to Oswald and all of the cartoons produced, and that he had most of Walt's animators under contract with Mintz (except for Ub who refused to betray the Disneys). If Walt didn't agree to the lower rates, he was taking Oswald from Disney Brothers Studio. Walt declined and left the meeting without a character, a staff or a paycheck.
Walt sent a telegram to his brother Roy and got onto the train, back to Hollywood.
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